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  Remember Daisy, the BB Gun? Some early history

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  i was still a jw at the time and my four boys were always anxious for me to bring home a daisy product.

  i did just that during a weekend for a lab tryout.

  ha!

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  The links work great now. Thanks!
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  2020 Pioneer Seminar in German!

  by Atlantis in

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  2020-pioneer seminar video in german.. .

  this file was sent to us by an anonymous kind person.

  all files that are sent to atlantis are re-named, and a different download link is generated from the link the sender used.. .

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  Hi Petra and Atlantis!

  On behalf of almost everyone here, I thank you for your hard work in sharing the documents and videos that the Borg is so determined to hide from the rank and file.

  You'd think they'd be happy that lots of people want to redistribute their convention videos. That helps them reach many more people than might otherwise see them. But wait! They don't want thoughtful commentary, much less criticism, of their insidious message: "You must obey whatever we tell you, no matter what it costs you emotionally or financially. If we change those instructions tomorrow, you must forget that we ever put out the old instructions and explanations and immediately adopt the new ones as your own."

  And they certainly don't proof of those outdated instructions and explanations floating around for just anyone to discover. From their standpoint, there is good reason for this. Some of them are downright embarrassing. While widely accepted back in the day as societal norms, some of the positions they held back then are rightly viewed today as racist and condescending. Many of their paternalistic blatherings are very hard to read without cringing.

  Anyway, thanks again for all y'all do to get this information out while protecting the identities of your sources.
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  Miney under the table and retirement

  by road to nowhere in

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  i know several older retired witnesses who comolain abiut how little social security pays.

  all of them made more than i ever did but were self employed.

  they fudged the amount t they reported on taxes and thought they would never get old.

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  Don't these people realize they are disobeying their own religious masters and belying what they've been trying to push down everybody's throats all this time?

  This kind of crap makes them liars and cheats and they deserve whatever happens when it backfires on them.
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  New York City...OMG What Is Happening??

  by minimus in

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  look at the new york post online today and watch the videos of mayhem and destruction to the city with fires all over manhattan.

  the police vehicles are being destroyed and torched and the rioting just goes on and on.. i regularly went to nyc sometimes once a month for years.

  now, who on earth would want to go to this hellhole??.

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  Uh, RubaDub, Gerald Ford has been dead since 2006. If you're talking about a career criminal named George Floyd, a lifelong thug who sired a number of illegitimate children whom he never supported and whose last arrest was for passing counterfeit bills, then yes, his death was one of the false premises upon which the present unrest is said to be based.

  To be clear, despite anything else, Floyd did not deserve to die in such a display of depraved indifference, especially since he was already in custody and no longer resisting. But there are plenty of others who died in even more egregious examples of police misconduct. They would have been much more appropriate symbols for the protests to rally around.

  Regardless, the statistically rare and isolated instances of police abuse cannot justify the rioting, burning, and looting the country has suffered in the last few months. The ongoing insurrection in certain cities has nothing whatsoever to do with peaceful protesting.
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  Scriptural seperation

  by road to nowhere in

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  extreme abuse or non support how about mild physical abuse?

  or as i know of, a sister who wanted a bigger house and left.

  she also encouraged adultery sk she could move on.

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  I know of a case where the wife for the same reason. She asked him to meet her to talk things over and wound up getting pregnant. And that's how she persuaded him to buy a bigger house for their growing family. Mission accomplished! Of course, he had to start working even more hours. She didn't work at all.
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  I was wondering how this would play out in JW land.

  by wolverines in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a niece who is trying to get pregnant.

  she was telling me her husband had to go to a room with porn in it and masturbate into a cup to get tested.

  i never thought of this before but but how would a jw handle this.

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  I remember some article from the Borg about 20 years ago about IVF. (Not their most recent tirade that equated donor sperm or eggs or even surrogacy with adultery.). Basically, it acknowledged that IVF using the sperm and eggs of a couple married to each other was acceptable. But then it added something along the lines of, "The way the sperm is extracted may raise concerns."

  They are so concerned that someone might masturbate that they cast aspersions on it even when it's a necessary part of an approved method of trying to conceive a child. Sheesh! Get a life!
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  AUSTRALIA | 23 July 2020 - Jehovah’s Witnesses Kingdom Hall bomber found guilty by Supreme Court

  by jwleaks in

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  leonard warwick has been found guilty for a number of bombings committed during the 1980’s, including the family court bombing and the jehovah’s witnesses casula congregation kingdom hall bombing on 21 july 1985 which killed the public speaker, graham wykes, and injured 13 others.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-23/leonard-warwick-family-court-bomber-found-guilty/12483286.

  side note: i have been closely following this story for 35 years now, including the past few years of supreme court hearings, much of which dealt with the jehovah’s witnesses kingdom hall bombing..

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  Wow! I heard of this case several years ago, but had no idea it was still ongoing. Glad it appears to be settled now except for the sentencing. I don't know if Australia has the death penalty, but being locked up for life will at least keep him from doing something similar again.

  I do well and truly hate this cult for what it does to otherwise perfectly wonderful people and their families, but violence is not the answer. Far better to keep exposing the evil chicanery its leadership uses to keep their mind-control victims under their thumb. Especially in Australia, there's a chance their self-serving policies may cost them any government protections they now enjoy, especially their precious tax status. I hope the penalties and taxes finally make them go bankrupt. They're already morally bankrupt.

  Note: To be clear, my disdain and rancor is for the organization itself and the policies of its leadership, not the individual members. Many of the rank and file followers are true believers who are trapped in the Borg, for one reason or another. It's just too bad they can't or won't open their eyes to what is happening all around them.
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  JW (and other religions) excuses for messing up when trying to understand prophesies.

  by RubaDub in

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  2. beliefs

  this is not a jw-bashing thing, but it always seemed odd to me that the "excuse" when things go wrong is that "we have to wait and see how the prophesy is fulfilled" or some other wording.. my question has always been, then what is the purpose of the prophesy if you don't understand it until after the fact?

  isn't that like having a weather forecast but being told that we don't really know what the weather will be until the next day?

  isn't that the purpose of prophesy?.

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  Back when my PIMI sister would discuss such things with me, we got on the topic of prophecy. She eventually just shrugged her shoulders and said, "Sometimes we can't understand a prophecy until it's fulfilled.

  Amazed at the breathtaking incongruity of such a statement, I could only say, "What is the point of a prophecy if you can't understand it until it's fulfilled? Anybody can point to some event afterwards and say, "See! I knew it! I told you so! That's just what I was talking about!""

  Just like newspaper horoscopes, if you're vague enough, you can claim to have predicted almost anything.
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  New WT Hisotry channel on You Tube

  by Fr.RAS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those interested in wt history you need to look at the relatively new channel over at youtube called wt-history.

  stuff i have never heard of before focusing on russell and rutherford with excellent documentation.

  theses two guys, jeff and paul who know this history better than anyone i have ever read with original documents, go through the history very professionally and with high accuracy.

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  I get a "This video is unavailable" message. Has the Borg already had it pulled down?
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  Anointed Grandmother wakes up

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anointed great grandmother who woke upi arrived at the coffee shop on my bicycle and took up a seat at the outdoor table in the fresh air.

  (this was way before the pandemic).. a lady with permed white hair walked over to my table and spoke directly to me.. i was wearing earbuds at that moment and didn’t hear.

  i popped them out and asked her to repeat herself.. “that’s a beautiful bicycle you have there.

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  Another great story, Terry! I wonder what ever happened to that letter she wanted read at her funeral. I bet the Society still has their copy, squirreled away just in case they ever want to use for propaganda purposes. Wouldn't it horrible if some apostate hacker dug it up and put it on the internet?